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6th Feb 2025

The Ripple Effect of Kindness

The Ripple Effect of Kindness: Exploring the 5th Beatitude

Join the Good News team, Lynn Shematek, Lauren Welch, and Jon Shematek, as they delve into the 5th Beatitude from Matthew's Gospel: 'Blessed are the merciful, for they shall have mercy shown to them.' In this insightful conversation, they discuss the essence of mercy, sharing personal anecdotes and examples from the scriptures. They explore how small acts of kindness can create ripples of compassion, the difficulties of showing mercy to those we dislike or don't understand, and practical steps to cultivate a merciful heart. Tune in for a thought-provoking and inspirational discussion on how we can embody mercy in our daily lives.

00:00 The Ripple Effect of Kindness

00:14 Introducing the 5th Beatitude

00:29 Personal Reflections on Mercy

02:28 Challenges in Showing Mercy

03:42 Cultivating Compassion and Understanding

04:34 Jesus as the Ultimate Example of Mercy

08:06 Practical Steps to Show Mercy

10:25 Final Thoughts and Reflections

10:51 Closing Remarks and Resources

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Transcript
Dolores:

Picture every act of kindness as a pebble dropped into a pond.

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The ripples spread outwards and

eventually return to where they began.

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In one of his beatitudes, Jesus speaks

about being merciful this way...

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. So let's join a conversation with

our Good News team Lynn Shematek,

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Lauren Welch and Jon Shematek.

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Lauren: Today, we're going to talk

about the 5th Beatitude in Matthew's

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Gospel, Blessed are the merciful, for

they shall have mercy shown to them.

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Jon, what's the first thing that

comes to mind when you hear merciful?

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Jon: the first thing that comes to

mind when I hear merciful is that

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maybe I've done something wrong.

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And maybe somebody has

been kind to me about that.

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Showing me mercy means they've It

might be being forgiven, but I'm also

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thinking that it just they are making

me feel okay about it, even though

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I've done something that might've

been wrong or offensive in some way.

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That's the first thing

that flies into my mind.

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Lauren: How about you, Lynn?

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Lynn: I often think of the, movies I

used to see in the gladiators, and they'd

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be, with the thumb up, and then put

the thumb down, I always thought, oh,

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that's an interesting way of doing it.

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But anyway, merciful is

something that I really work on.

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I like to be merciful, because I hope

people will be as merciful to me.

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I recognize how many of the things I do

could be taken as, irritant or, parts

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of speech I might use inadvertently.

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I hope people are merciful when they think

about what I'm saying and what I'm doing.

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Lauren: It sounds like it's really

important that we understand ourselves.

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and know how we might offend or, have

someone show us mercy, if people show

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us mercy, it makes us more willing,

to have mercy for other people.

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Jon: a lot of times when I've done a

small act of kindness like letting a car

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get in ahead of me or someone With their

shopping cart get into the cashier I

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think I'll let them in I sometimes think

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Maybe someone will let me in the

next time maybe someone Be kind to

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me because I've shown this little

act of kindness to someone else.

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Lauren: The disciples had a hard

time figuring out how many times

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they needed to be merciful, In the

Gospels, Peter asked Jesus, How many

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times do I have to forgive my brother?

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Seven times?

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And Jesus seems to say,

a lot more than that.

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And even our enemies, even people

that we really don't like, and

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that's when it gets harder, I think.

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how do we begin to have mercy towards

people who do horrendous things.

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But how do we begin to have mercy with

people who we just don't understand?

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Lynn: That's a great question.

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I think that's very difficult

because you're dealing with

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the fear of the unknown.

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we don't know the person, we don't

understand, this is terrible, this

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person's done this, and it's awful.

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it's very hard to get around that.

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You have to realize that they're all

human beings, they're all children of God.

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maybe they have a problem and

they just can't express it So

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that's a very difficult thing to

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Jon: Yeah, I absolutely

agree it's difficult to do.

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I'm wondering whether the first

step, might be having the intention.

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We may not always have the ability,

but having the intention to understand

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the other person, we can never

know how someone else is feeling.

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we can't say that.

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that's one of the most irritating

things I hear is when someone

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says, I know how you feel.

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you don't know how I feel.

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I don't know how you feel, but,

can I begin to imagine what

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that person is experiencing?

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if I can begin to put myself in

their shoes, not to identify them

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so much, but to get an inner sense

of where they are, how are they

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hurting, because they probably are

hurting if they're doing something.

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I'm thinking, you gave a great example,

Lauren, from the scriptures about how

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many times do we need to forgive someone.

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When I was thinking about, The

word mercy, after you asked me the

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first time, I thought about, where

do we see that in the Gospels?

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how many times do we hear someone

calling out to Jesus, have mercy on me.

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I'm blind.

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Have mercy on me.

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My daughter's dying.

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this desire, that the divine one

will enter that person's life and

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help them move toward healing.

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when Jesus came to, so many

circumstances of his healing ministries,

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he felt compassion for the person.

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He, which literally means he

entered into their suffering,

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he was suffering with them.

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he was perfect, he could do that.

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we're not quite that good.

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It takes practice, just like everything.

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if we can, begin to cultivate a feeling

of compassion a step in that direction

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is what you were saying, Lynn, is to

recognize that we're all children of

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God, and siblings together in that

situation, then maybe we'll find it

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possible to be a little bit compassionate,

understanding, kind, even to someone

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who is In our judgment, really awful

people, if they're doing bad things, I

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think it is possible to show them mercy.

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Not easy, but possible.

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Lauren: I agree with you, Jon.

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Along with what you're saying about

putting ourselves in their shoes, we

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can get to know them a little better

by, asking where they're hurting,

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What is most important to them?

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getting to know about their

family, their circumstances.

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if we start by getting to know them.

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then I think compassion comes a

little easier sometimes if we begin to

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talk about things we have in common.

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We may develop a relationship.

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In relationship, you can show mercy.

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We might be able to show mercy, more often

if we're in relationship with people.

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Jesus actually got to know

people pretty quickly.

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the Centurion who came to him,

he saw him for who he was It's

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being present to that person.

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That's hard when you don't like

someone . When you like someone,

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it's not so hard, but when you don't

like someone, it's hard to be present

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Jon: I've always thought of Jesus, as

having the most highly developed sense of

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intuition of any human being that's ever

walked on this earth he would ask people

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what they needed but he knew in his heart.

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what they needed.

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So I think that, he's pretty good

example for us in terms of what it,

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what we can do to be merciful to others.

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Lauren: He was merciful from the cross,

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Jon: Yes.

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Lauren: from the beginning, throughout

all of his ministry, he was merciful

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to people by loving them, and I think

because of his great love for the divine.

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And if we understand how

much the divine loves us.

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Then, we can extend that and know that

the divine allows other people, if we

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really do know that we are all children

of God, we are siblings of one another.

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So what can we do?

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How can we begin to cultivate this mercy

towards others, what are small things

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that we can do with someone that we

haven't seen for a while, or someone

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that has a need that we could fulfill?

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What are some small things we can do?

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Lynn: But one of the most important

things is contact, communication

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Between people.

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write an email or, send

a text or something.

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Just say, thinking of you, because

I've gotten notes like that, thinking

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of you and I hope you're doing well

it's really, simple but very powerful.

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Lauren: Anything else?

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Jon: I agree with what Lynn just

said, because reaching out to

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people, is a great first step.

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the other thing we could do, is when

we meet someone and ask, how are you?

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to look interested in

knowing the answer to that.

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rather than just saying, hi, how you

doing, and hoping people say fine and

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move on if you really look open to hear

how are they truly, just like we did a

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few minutes ago before we were on camera,

really seriously interested in the other.

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I think that's the whole

secret, of, mercy, and being

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merciful, is having an interest.

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Having, and then go beyond

interest to love eventually.

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But let's say having at least

an interest in the other.

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Someone who is not you.

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Someone, perhaps, who's

estranged from you.

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Or just someone you've

lost track of over time.

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So I think making contact is good.

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we have these opportunities in

casual encounters with people.

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Surprising opportunities to

really connect with them and to

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find out, how are they doing?

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how often is it that if you feel listened

to, you feel so much better, you feel like

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you're taking a step toward being healed?

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Lauren: I think listening to

other people is probably the

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greatest gift we can give them.

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We can listen them into being the

person that they are to become.

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deep listening is one of the things

that I think is, A gift that we all

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can give, and we can give it freely.

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Jon: I think for our viewers and

listeners, I'm wondering what

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you think the word mercy means.

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I'm wondering if you can think of times

in your own life where you have shown

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mercy or have mercy shown to you in

something big or something very small.

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And what can you do today

to show mercy to another?

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I want to thank everyone for being

with us in this conversation.

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Lynn: Take care.

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Lauren: Peace and blessings

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Dolores: This episode on the Beatitudes has been brought

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Listening for Clues
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Listening for Clues invites you into conversations that discover clues, rather than solutions to life’s problems.
Our current series, Exploring the Beatitudes, features weekly conversations with our Good News team, one beatitude at a time. Join the journey with Lynn Shematek and Deacons Lauren Welch and Jon Shematek, as we consider deeper meanings to the beatitudes, and invite you to do so as well. Visit us at listeningforclues.com or send a message to listeningforclues@gmail.com

About your hosts

Jon Shematek

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Jon Shematek is an Episcopal Deacon, retired after serving thirty years in seven varied parishes in the Diocese of Maryland. Jon is also a retired pediatric cardiologist; he practiced medicine for years and also served as the Chief Medical Officer of a multi-specialty medical group and a large health insurance plan. Jon’s current ministry is being formed by his interests in photography, graphic design, teaching, and web-based communications. He currently serves as the Communications Coordinator at the Episcopal Cathedral of the Incarnation in Baltimore, Maryland and as Co-chair of the Commission on Ministry in the Diocese of Maryland.

Lauren Welch

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Lauren Welch is an Episcopal Deacon, retired after serving thirty years in two parishes in the Diocese of Maryland and on Diocesan Staff in various roles as well as serving in leadership positions with the Association for Episcopal Deacons. Lauren’s secular employment included thirty years as a Medical Technologist functioning as blood bank supervisor, and ten years as chaplain at two Baltimore hospitals and a retirement community. Lauren continues her passion and interest in healing energy work as a Reiki Master and Spiritual Director. Lauren is listening to where the Spirit is calling her in the labyrinth of life, responding one step at a time.