Exploring the Beatitudes: Mourn
Exploring the Beatitudes: Blessed are those who mourn | Good News Podcast Ep. 2
Join the Good News team—Lynn Shematek, Lauren Welch, and Jon Shematek—as they delve into the second Beatitude: 'Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.' In this episode, they share personal insights and reflections on mourning, grieving, and finding comfort. They discuss how loss impacts our lives, the different ways people experience mourning, and the significance of comfort from community and faith. This episode aims to provide another understanding of the Beatitudes as a blueprint for living a Christian life.
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00:00 Introduction to the Beatitudes Series
00:16 Understanding Mourning and Loss
02:03 Personal Reflections on Mourning
04:48 Sources of Comfort in Grief
06:44 The Role of Faith and Community
11:50 Jesus' Example of Grieving
13:35 Engaging with the Audience
14:13 Conclusion and Farewell
14:35 Credits and Additional Information
Transcript
Welcome to our eight-part video and audio series on the Beatitudes.
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:These provocative and often confusing
sayings of Jesus are said to provide a
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:blueprint for living the Christian life.
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:So let's dive in with our
Good News team Lynn Shematek,
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:Lauren Welch, and Jon Shematek.
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:Lauren Welch: Our beatitude for
today is the second beatitude.
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:Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
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:Jon, what do you think of
when you think of mourning?
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:Jon: Wow.
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:Okay.
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:When I think of mourning,
I think of a loss.
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:I think it is the way people
respond when they have had a loss.
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:Either One that's occurred.
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:It could be, the usual kinds of things
I think that people think of are deaths
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:of someone that they've cared about.
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:But I think we mourn
almost any kind of change.
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:When we change jobs.
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:When we age and start losing some
of our physical and maybe mental
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:faculties our position in the
social structure as we age, people
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:sometimes become invisible to others.
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:If you become ill or have a
disability gosh, I just think
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:of so many life circumstances.
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:that that are about or that include
loss and how that is really a
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:universal kind of experience.
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:Everyone knows what it is to
lose something or someone.
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:Everyone knows how They have
felt when they lose that.
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:Mourning to me, when I just think about it
immediately, I think it's a negative thing
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:in a way, because it's a time of sadness.
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:It's a time of grief.
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:It's a time we don't want to think
about in our culture too much.
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:But my first, reaction to it
is, yuck, I don't like mourning.
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:And how on earth is there any
blessing involved in mourning?
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:So boom, there's my
thought about it, Lauren.
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:Lauren Welch: Lynn, what
would you add to that?
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:Lynn: I'm not going to, obviously not
going to say yuck, but I find mourning
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:it is a feeling I always like a good
comedy, but I really prefer something
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:that's a little more thought provoking,
so I if there's a little change or
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:something, and I can think about it,
and I really don't mind mourning.
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:I think that I have to be careful
with it because I can tend to get very
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:introspective and then I'm not, trying
to find the good of anything or trying
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:to find some happiness or whatever.
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:I really, I enjoy the Not so
much the feeling, but it's the
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:thinking about things, of how
it's changed, what's happened.
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:And I've been very fortunate in my life
in that most of the people that have
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:gone before me were wonderful people,
and I thought they had a good life,
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:and most of them had a good long life.
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:And so it's I don't really have
anything this terrible that I think,
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:oh my goodness, I'm just going to,
lose sleep over or anything like that.
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:But I think mourning is
a time for introspection.
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:And it's the time to say, okay, now
it has changed, your body, your, the
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:circumstances, the person is gone, and
at this point then, what you have to do
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:is say, okay, how do I respond to that?
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:So I'd have to say mourning is a is
an ever going thing with me though.
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:So it's and I think that probably
most people that have reached
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:my age, it is, that's true too.
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:Lauren Welch: I agree with you, Lynn that
mourning is a part of our daily lives.
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:For the most part, even if it's not in
our own lives, it's somebody with somebody
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:around us who is grieving and I love the
way that you talked about introspection
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:and and looking for what is new,
looking for what is trying to be born.
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:It's what I was hearing from you
with what is trying to come forth
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:out of whatever has been lost.
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:So that's what I heard you
your introspection being about.
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:And I think that is 1 of
the ways we are comforted.
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:I think that grieving is I think
that one of the things that we see in
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:our grieving is that we begin to see
glimpses of that new birth coming to be.
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:How else might we be comforted?
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:Jon: Yeah, so I guess for me, it's
what are the sources of comfort
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:when when something has happened,
something negative has happened,
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:particularly a loss of some sort.
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:I think there are a couple of
things that are important to me.
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:One is and very hard actually for me
to accept is the comfort that others
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:offer you, the people that you're in
relationship with the family friends.
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:The church all of that are great sources
of comfort, could be great sources
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:of comfort if you allow them to be.
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:And I think sometimes when people
have something where they're stricken
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:by grief you'll hear people often
say that their heart is broken.
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:That seems, may seem extreme,
particularly if you're more of a
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:thinker than a feeler in a way.
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:But if your heart is broken, if you
think of those terms, which I do have a
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:little comfort thinking of mourning in
that way, if your heart is broken, then
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:this is one of those situations where
,that broken heart is open to divine.
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:I won't say intervention, but yeah,
divine intervention, but that the Divine
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:One can actually enter into that grief
with you and be a comfort and support.
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:I think it's what we talked about with the
first beatitude of prayer being of that.
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:It's just nurturing your spiritual life
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:I think sometimes people misread this.
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:beatitude thing about God sending bad
things to people, and that's why they're
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:and somehow there's a blessing in that.
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:Bad things just happen, in my opinion.
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:God doesn't send a bad thing or will
anything bad or evil to happen to anybody.
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:But when it does, and it does, for sure
then God is there to be our source of
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:comfort, to enter into our broken hearts,
if you feel comfortable with that image.
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:Lauren Welch: Grieving is part of our
daily life, especially in our world today.
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:All we have to do is read the
news, and we will find something
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:to to grieve with others.
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:I think it's important to grieve.
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:A lot of times when something bad
happens, many people will try to
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:get us to see the bright side or
to see something good right away.
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:And I think it's important to give
us time, ourselves time, to, to feel
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:the loss, to feel the grief because
I think it's in that brokenness, I
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:like your thought of a broken heart,
Jon, allow that brokenness to break
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:us open so that God can fill us.
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:And I think that's, again, was,
as you say, the comfort comes, but
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:it's important to take that time.
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:and feel the loss deep in our being.
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:I think that's where
the comfort comes from.
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:Lynn: I'd like to add something,
if I could, and that is, I was
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:thinking back while you both were
talking about the day of 9 11, and
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:I remember how frightened I was.
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:I was so frightened.
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:I hadn't been this frightened, in
such a long time, as a little kid
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:maybe sometime felt frightened.
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:But I was so frightened.
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:I felt so alone.
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:And all of a sudden I thought.
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:God is here.
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:He hasn't left us.
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:And it was wonderful.
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:I just thought, oh, God has
me, even more important.
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:And it was but that was out of such
trauma come these wonderful things.
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:So I was comforted, definitely
comforted at that point.
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:Lauren Welch: Yeah.
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:There's a group of us that send
Reiki to the people of Ukraine
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:and Gaza and now many other points
in the world that are war torn.
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:And we do this as a
group every three weeks.
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:We get together and we,
knowing people in those areas.
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:We sometimes receive emails from
people thanking us because they
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:know that somebody is thinking
of them and that is helpful.
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:But much of, many of the times
that we are doing this, the
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:sorrow and the grief that we feel.
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:Imagine these people going through
it can be overwhelming for us,
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:but doing it together it helps us.
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:Jon: Yeah, I was thinking that, as you
were speaking about doing that, Lauren,
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:and thinking about, okay, the Beatitudes
being the blueprint for the Christian life
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:and what is it that it's calling us to do?
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:What is it that this
Beatitude is calling us to do?
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:And one piece, I think is calling
us to mourn and to mourn with others
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:to be in solidarity and and in
relationship with others, no matter
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:where they are and who they are.
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:And I think the other, the second
piece that it is calling us as
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:people of faith to do is to do what
we can to be a comfort to another.
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:And that, I think that usually really
means not Saying some platitude or,
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:bringing a cake Or something like
that, but although I love cake.
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:If anyone wants to bring
me a cake, I'll take it.
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:Cup of coffee I'm there.
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:But the I think what it really means is
it's just being there, being literally
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:It sounds a little trite, but just
being present, wordlessly, just being
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:physically or virtually, like this, or
over the waves of the ether through a
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:reiki or a prayer or whatever, being
there with someone is where the healing
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:comes in, and where the I think that's
what our Christian life is about,
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:yeah.
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:Lynn: I think that's where we're
going to get comforted too.
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:Lauren Welch: Definitely.
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:That's and that I think is, as Jon said,
what this beatitude is calling us to
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:not be afraid of grief, not to not to
want it to go away, but to embrace it
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:and see what, comfort comes and what
we're called to do through that grief.
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:So I think that's one of the reasons
that Jesus taught this Beatitude
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:to his disciples so that when
the time came that they would be
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:mourning his loss in particular,
but other losses in their life.
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:They would know that they would be
comforted if they lived into the grief.
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:Jon: Lauren, I think that's absolutely
right in that Jesus gave us an example.
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:Telling us it's okay to grieve.
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:It's okay to weep.
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:You think of him at the tomb
of Lazarus you think of him
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:in the garden of Gethsemane.
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:He was weeping and I, he, I'm
guessing, imagining that he
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:was mourning his own death.
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:impending loss and all
that was going to happen.
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:But certainly everyone remembers, or
people who've read the Bible remember
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:the story of Lazarus and the two word
verse in the Bible, the shortest verse in
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:the Bible, they always say, Jesus wept.
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:And he showed them and us that's okay.
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:If you're not a weeper, that's okay too.
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:You can weep internally.
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:But it is certainly okay to feel whatever
you're feeling when you experience loss.
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:And in that, there is a power that
comes from God to get through it.
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:Just like you were saying, Lynn, with the
9 11, you realized that God was there,
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:and God would get us through it, and
I think that whenever we're in a world
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:of turmoil, which we sure the heck are
we that, that article of hope is there.
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:That's what I love about the Beatitudes,
there's so much hope in them.
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:Lauren Welch: There he is, and I think
in the world that Jesus was living,
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:people needed hope, and especially
the people that he was speaking to
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:needed hope, and so he gives them this
blueprint, calling them, to not only
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:survive, but to thrive in their lives.
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:so now what we want to do is to
ask our listeners, what comes to
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:mind when you think of grieving?
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:How do you grieve?
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:And how do you find comfort?
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:How, what brings you comfort
in that in that grief?
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:Friends, family there are
liturgies that are very helpful
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:during for mourning and grieving.
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:What is it that brings you comfort
when you're hurt, when you're hurting?
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:Jon: Thanks, Lauren.
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:I think that is a great moment for us
to to stop and think about that and
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:to thank our viewers and listeners for
being with us this time, and we hope
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:to see you hope to see you again soon.
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:Lynn: Bye bye and take care.
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:Lauren Welch: Blessings and
peace until we meet again.
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