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15th Jan 2025

Exploring the Beatitudes: Mourn

Exploring the Beatitudes: Blessed are those who mourn | Good News Podcast Ep. 2

Join the Good News team—Lynn Shematek, Lauren Welch, and Jon Shematek—as they delve into the second Beatitude: 'Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.' In this episode, they share personal insights and reflections on mourning, grieving, and finding comfort. They discuss how loss impacts our lives, the different ways people experience mourning, and the significance of comfort from community and faith. This episode aims to provide another understanding of the Beatitudes as a blueprint for living a Christian life.

Watch the video or listen to the audio podcast at https://listening-for-clues.captivate.fm/episode/exploring-the-beatitudes-poor-in-spirit/.

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00:00 Introduction to the Beatitudes Series

00:16 Understanding Mourning and Loss

02:03 Personal Reflections on Mourning

04:48 Sources of Comfort in Grief

06:44 The Role of Faith and Community

11:50 Jesus' Example of Grieving

13:35 Engaging with the Audience

14:13 Conclusion and Farewell

14:35 Credits and Additional Information

Transcript
Dolores:

Welcome to our eight-part video and audio series on the Beatitudes.

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These provocative and often confusing

sayings of Jesus are said to provide a

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blueprint for living the Christian life.

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So let's dive in with our

Good News team Lynn Shematek,

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Lauren Welch, and Jon Shematek.

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Lauren Welch: Our beatitude for

today is the second beatitude.

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Blessed are those who mourn,

for they will be comforted.

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Jon, what do you think of

when you think of mourning?

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Jon: Wow.

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Okay.

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When I think of mourning,

I think of a loss.

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I think it is the way people

respond when they have had a loss.

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Either One that's occurred.

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It could be, the usual kinds of things

I think that people think of are deaths

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of someone that they've cared about.

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But I think we mourn

almost any kind of change.

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When we change jobs.

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When we age and start losing some

of our physical and maybe mental

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faculties our position in the

social structure as we age, people

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sometimes become invisible to others.

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If you become ill or have a

disability gosh, I just think

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of so many life circumstances.

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that that are about or that include

loss and how that is really a

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universal kind of experience.

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Everyone knows what it is to

lose something or someone.

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Everyone knows how They have

felt when they lose that.

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Mourning to me, when I just think about it

immediately, I think it's a negative thing

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in a way, because it's a time of sadness.

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It's a time of grief.

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It's a time we don't want to think

about in our culture too much.

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But my first, reaction to it

is, yuck, I don't like mourning.

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And how on earth is there any

blessing involved in mourning?

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So boom, there's my

thought about it, Lauren.

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Lauren Welch: Lynn, what

would you add to that?

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Lynn: I'm not going to, obviously not

going to say yuck, but I find mourning

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it is a feeling I always like a good

comedy, but I really prefer something

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that's a little more thought provoking,

so I if there's a little change or

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something, and I can think about it,

and I really don't mind mourning.

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I think that I have to be careful

with it because I can tend to get very

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introspective and then I'm not, trying

to find the good of anything or trying

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to find some happiness or whatever.

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I really, I enjoy the Not so

much the feeling, but it's the

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thinking about things, of how

it's changed, what's happened.

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And I've been very fortunate in my life

in that most of the people that have

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gone before me were wonderful people,

and I thought they had a good life,

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and most of them had a good long life.

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And so it's I don't really have

anything this terrible that I think,

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oh my goodness, I'm just going to,

lose sleep over or anything like that.

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But I think mourning is

a time for introspection.

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And it's the time to say, okay, now

it has changed, your body, your, the

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circumstances, the person is gone, and

at this point then, what you have to do

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is say, okay, how do I respond to that?

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So I'd have to say mourning is a is

an ever going thing with me though.

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So it's and I think that probably

most people that have reached

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my age, it is, that's true too.

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Lauren Welch: I agree with you, Lynn that

mourning is a part of our daily lives.

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For the most part, even if it's not in

our own lives, it's somebody with somebody

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around us who is grieving and I love the

way that you talked about introspection

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and and looking for what is new,

looking for what is trying to be born.

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It's what I was hearing from you

with what is trying to come forth

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out of whatever has been lost.

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So that's what I heard you

your introspection being about.

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And I think that is 1 of

the ways we are comforted.

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I think that grieving is I think

that one of the things that we see in

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our grieving is that we begin to see

glimpses of that new birth coming to be.

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How else might we be comforted?

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Jon: Yeah, so I guess for me, it's

what are the sources of comfort

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when when something has happened,

something negative has happened,

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particularly a loss of some sort.

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I think there are a couple of

things that are important to me.

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One is and very hard actually for me

to accept is the comfort that others

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offer you, the people that you're in

relationship with the family friends.

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The church all of that are great sources

of comfort, could be great sources

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of comfort if you allow them to be.

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And I think sometimes when people

have something where they're stricken

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by grief you'll hear people often

say that their heart is broken.

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That seems, may seem extreme,

particularly if you're more of a

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thinker than a feeler in a way.

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But if your heart is broken, if you

think of those terms, which I do have a

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little comfort thinking of mourning in

that way, if your heart is broken, then

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this is one of those situations where

,that broken heart is open to divine.

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I won't say intervention, but yeah,

divine intervention, but that the Divine

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One can actually enter into that grief

with you and be a comfort and support.

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I think it's what we talked about with the

first beatitude of prayer being of that.

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It's just nurturing your spiritual life

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I think sometimes people misread this.

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beatitude thing about God sending bad

things to people, and that's why they're

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and somehow there's a blessing in that.

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Bad things just happen, in my opinion.

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God doesn't send a bad thing or will

anything bad or evil to happen to anybody.

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But when it does, and it does, for sure

then God is there to be our source of

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comfort, to enter into our broken hearts,

if you feel comfortable with that image.

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Lauren Welch: Grieving is part of our

daily life, especially in our world today.

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All we have to do is read the

news, and we will find something

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to to grieve with others.

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I think it's important to grieve.

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A lot of times when something bad

happens, many people will try to

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get us to see the bright side or

to see something good right away.

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And I think it's important to give

us time, ourselves time, to, to feel

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the loss, to feel the grief because

I think it's in that brokenness, I

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like your thought of a broken heart,

Jon, allow that brokenness to break

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us open so that God can fill us.

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And I think that's, again, was,

as you say, the comfort comes, but

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it's important to take that time.

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and feel the loss deep in our being.

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I think that's where

the comfort comes from.

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Lynn: I'd like to add something,

if I could, and that is, I was

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thinking back while you both were

talking about the day of 9 11, and

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I remember how frightened I was.

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I was so frightened.

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I hadn't been this frightened, in

such a long time, as a little kid

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maybe sometime felt frightened.

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But I was so frightened.

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I felt so alone.

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And all of a sudden I thought.

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God is here.

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He hasn't left us.

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And it was wonderful.

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I just thought, oh, God has

me, even more important.

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And it was but that was out of such

trauma come these wonderful things.

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So I was comforted, definitely

comforted at that point.

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Lauren Welch: Yeah.

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There's a group of us that send

Reiki to the people of Ukraine

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and Gaza and now many other points

in the world that are war torn.

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And we do this as a

group every three weeks.

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We get together and we,

knowing people in those areas.

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We sometimes receive emails from

people thanking us because they

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know that somebody is thinking

of them and that is helpful.

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But much of, many of the times

that we are doing this, the

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sorrow and the grief that we feel.

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Imagine these people going through

it can be overwhelming for us,

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but doing it together it helps us.

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Jon: Yeah, I was thinking that, as you

were speaking about doing that, Lauren,

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and thinking about, okay, the Beatitudes

being the blueprint for the Christian life

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and what is it that it's calling us to do?

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What is it that this

Beatitude is calling us to do?

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And one piece, I think is calling

us to mourn and to mourn with others

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to be in solidarity and and in

relationship with others, no matter

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where they are and who they are.

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And I think the other, the second

piece that it is calling us as

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people of faith to do is to do what

we can to be a comfort to another.

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And that, I think that usually really

means not Saying some platitude or,

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bringing a cake Or something like

that, but although I love cake.

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If anyone wants to bring

me a cake, I'll take it.

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Cup of coffee I'm there.

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But the I think what it really means is

it's just being there, being literally

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It sounds a little trite, but just

being present, wordlessly, just being

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physically or virtually, like this, or

over the waves of the ether through a

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reiki or a prayer or whatever, being

there with someone is where the healing

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comes in, and where the I think that's

what our Christian life is about,

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yeah.

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Lynn: I think that's where we're

going to get comforted too.

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Lauren Welch: Definitely.

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That's and that I think is, as Jon said,

what this beatitude is calling us to

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not be afraid of grief, not to not to

want it to go away, but to embrace it

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and see what, comfort comes and what

we're called to do through that grief.

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So I think that's one of the reasons

that Jesus taught this Beatitude

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to his disciples so that when

the time came that they would be

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mourning his loss in particular,

but other losses in their life.

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They would know that they would be

comforted if they lived into the grief.

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Jon: Lauren, I think that's absolutely

right in that Jesus gave us an example.

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Telling us it's okay to grieve.

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It's okay to weep.

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You think of him at the tomb

of Lazarus you think of him

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in the garden of Gethsemane.

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He was weeping and I, he, I'm

guessing, imagining that he

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was mourning his own death.

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impending loss and all

that was going to happen.

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But certainly everyone remembers, or

people who've read the Bible remember

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the story of Lazarus and the two word

verse in the Bible, the shortest verse in

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the Bible, they always say, Jesus wept.

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And he showed them and us that's okay.

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If you're not a weeper, that's okay too.

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You can weep internally.

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But it is certainly okay to feel whatever

you're feeling when you experience loss.

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And in that, there is a power that

comes from God to get through it.

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Just like you were saying, Lynn, with the

9 11, you realized that God was there,

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and God would get us through it, and

I think that whenever we're in a world

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of turmoil, which we sure the heck are

we that, that article of hope is there.

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That's what I love about the Beatitudes,

there's so much hope in them.

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Lauren Welch: There he is, and I think

in the world that Jesus was living,

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people needed hope, and especially

the people that he was speaking to

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needed hope, and so he gives them this

blueprint, calling them, to not only

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survive, but to thrive in their lives.

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so now what we want to do is to

ask our listeners, what comes to

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mind when you think of grieving?

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How do you grieve?

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And how do you find comfort?

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How, what brings you comfort

in that in that grief?

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Friends, family there are

liturgies that are very helpful

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during for mourning and grieving.

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What is it that brings you comfort

when you're hurt, when you're hurting?

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Jon: Thanks, Lauren.

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I think that is a great moment for us

to to stop and think about that and

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to thank our viewers and listeners for

being with us this time, and we hope

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to see you hope to see you again soon.

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Lynn: Bye bye and take care.

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Lauren Welch: Blessings and

peace until we meet again.

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Dolores: This episode on the Beatitudes has been brought

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listeningforclues.com, on our

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Listening for Clues invites you into conversations that discover clues, rather than solutions to life’s problems.
Our current series, Exploring the Beatitudes, features weekly conversations with our Good News team, one beatitude at a time. Join the journey with Lynn Shematek and Deacons Lauren Welch and Jon Shematek, as we consider deeper meanings to the beatitudes, and invite you to do so as well. Visit us at listeningforclues.com or send a message to listeningforclues@gmail.com

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Jon Shematek

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Jon Shematek is an Episcopal Deacon, retired after serving thirty years in seven varied parishes in the Diocese of Maryland. Jon is also a retired pediatric cardiologist; he practiced medicine for years and also served as the Chief Medical Officer of a multi-specialty medical group and a large health insurance plan. Jon’s current ministry is being formed by his interests in photography, graphic design, teaching, and web-based communications. He currently serves as the Communications Coordinator at the Episcopal Cathedral of the Incarnation in Baltimore, Maryland and as Co-chair of the Commission on Ministry in the Diocese of Maryland.

Lauren Welch

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Lauren Welch is an Episcopal Deacon, retired after serving thirty years in two parishes in the Diocese of Maryland and on Diocesan Staff in various roles as well as serving in leadership positions with the Association for Episcopal Deacons. Lauren’s secular employment included thirty years as a Medical Technologist functioning as blood bank supervisor, and ten years as chaplain at two Baltimore hospitals and a retirement community. Lauren continues her passion and interest in healing energy work as a Reiki Master and Spiritual Director. Lauren is listening to where the Spirit is calling her in the labyrinth of life, responding one step at a time.